A couple of family thoughts, because a short SKZ fic (of all places) triggered this realization. (note: character name or context is not the important part here)
"... Hyunjin is pretty sure his dad didn't even really care about that very much and needed a way to wiggle into the conversation. Hyunjin does that. Sometimes Hyunjin feels like as he grows into himself, he learns more about his father through the person he himself is becoming than his actual dad. His dad certainly isn't going to tell him why he acts certain ways and as Hyunjin experiences more and he finds himself acting in the same ways, he pauses and he thinks oooohhh, okay. Certain things just make sense now, even if he has to work to piece it together a little..."
I'm nearly 34 and have been spending more time with my parents lately than I have since I was as a kid. Sometimes Cam and I crash at their place (still my childhood home, still my hometown) if we're in town, or more often they're here either on the way to or from NC, or they're doing something with their other semi-retired friends at their nearby-ish alma mater, or they've come specifically to help with some home improvement project.
Anyway, we're spending time doing home ownership BS or just hanging out and the similarities are... jarring.
People have always said I sound like my mom, that we have a lot of the same cadence and phrases and mannerisms, so that's not new. We even look pretty similar. She was a SAHM so we were often together, and we like a lot of the same things. I've known her "better" forever.
My dad, though... he worked through a lot through my childhood, and then would pull the classic "dad falls asleep in front of the TV" maneuver. Or he bonded more with my brother talking cars or taking him to his baseball games. (The two of them have similar tempers so they fought a lot, but that's another story...) He's also kind of a nag, so I think he sometimes felt "more like a parent" to me?
Fast-forward to now. I'm realizing my dad is textbook AuDHD - messy desk, special interests for days, conversations that jump around, disdain for authority, always needs to be busy, always needs to be right, has had the same friends since childhood who also show a lot of autistic behaviors - and it's like,
ohhhhhh. Especially now that I have Cam as a second pair of eyes and ears, it's hard to ignore.
( * I've not tested on the autism spectrum in the past, but the rampant ADHD is also "neurospicy" and manifests in similar ways. There's a lot of overlap!)
( ** One of his besties has an enormous collection of Mr. Peanut memorabilia. The other has a wild semantic memory and pieced together degrees of separation with one of my friends from his aunt teaching elementary school? They are very nice guys but whew)How much of this is nature vs. nurture? Hard to say? But I watched my dad's home improvement plans for the weekend balloon in scope, and then he stubbornly refused to reduce them because "it'll only take a minute"... Scorpio stubbornness? Time-blindness? Hello darkness my old friend?!
It goes deeper than that, unfortunately. My dad's default for communication is... a little sardonic, a little detached. He's an engineer, so it's always been about ~facts & logic~ especially when we're arguing, and since neither of us like being wrong...
This is probably more of a nurture thing, but that kind of behavior has bled over to my married life in a way I don't think does me any favors... because Cam is a very emotional guy and acts accordingly. I'll give what to me sounds like a logical explanation (... excuse... ) but it ignores the way whatever it is made Cameron feel. And I want so very badly for Cameron to feel comfortable expressing all of his emotions, even the negative ones.
I've thought of myself as an emotions over logic person in the past, but maybe it was just in relation to my dad (and brother) lol? Or maybe it was just my ADHD self doing ADHD things which... are kind of inherently illogical?
Self-discovery is weird and confusing! We all really do become our parents! I need to go to real fucking therapy.